PB: One thing I can't handle is sending Kosovar refugees to Guantanamo. Wait a minute. That's Cuba. What is this all about? Wait a minute. Is there going to be a Kosovo Miami Cuban state in 20 years?

FZ: Can you talk about the tour show.

PB: We do some of the old show but it's all new material. We do Ralph Spoilsport. "I've been driving this '79 Crown Victoria, police package. I love the car man but I don't like the kind of women I'm attracting. So I want to buy a new car." So then here's this chair. In Santa Barbara, they had this big Spanish chair. One of those great big leather ones. "Oh man it's a GM BMW, the car of tomorrow and I got it today. It's got the Eddie Bauer King Kong package. Oh and the inline duo port high blinder beams. I don't know, look! Oh no! The asynchronous dense surround holodeck sound server and subwoofer comleather bark and roll seats. I'm in fucking heaven." I get in it, you know. I wonder if it speaks. I hit it. "Sure we do driver. Get ready Fahrvegnugen". I get on the freeway and off I go. It's all new. Then we do "Radio Now". "I'll listen to the radio." Click. Then Austin does Bebop, "You're in FunFun Town man." And we go into the station. We then do a whole bunch of stuff. We do Happy Pandit, we do Ralph Spoilsport, Chump Threads, we're going to add Winquedinque, we're gonna add a bunch of stuff.

Then I come out at the top of "Parallel Hell". I'm in a helmet, like we've done before. This time I come out, "Budda budda budda, budda." It's real quiet and then I go, "Rodriguez, Gonzales, Stone!". This is like 2 days, this is like Friday, the day after it happened. And the people are going, "Nooooooo." Then we go into Lt. Tirebiter in "Parallel Hell". It's all different. Different ending. It's about war.

It's been just kick fucking ass out there. The Firesign's together, it's friendly, it's smart, it's patient, it's anarchy, it's great. Publish the anarchist handbook because it works. Anarchy works. No contracts. You can't partner with people unless you're completely free.

This new show is filled with improvisation. Filled with it. We're beginning to like play with each other. Then when we're in "Parallel Hell" it's like Garson Kanin and Henry Miller. Role playing. Everyone is like serious theater. As crazy as it is, it's theater. We're looking for such a venue in NY now with Westbound (?). He did Sandra Bernhardt. He's doing the Umbilical Twins now. Arnold is like the toast of smart NY theater. 300 seats for 2 weeks, 7,200 seats. If you want a ticket, you got one, but it's a tough ticket.

FZ: What about the new album?

PB: The new album is going to be the first DVD audio album. 5.1 surround sound.

FZ: Who gets to be the .1?

PB: We're the 4 or 5 crazy guys and we're looking for the .1. We're looking for the pinhead to play in that speaker. There's no title for the album...

FZ: In spite of what everyone says...

PB: My working title is "Morning In Billville" but that's only the working title.

FZ: What's the theme?

PB: It's about a town, Billville, that has a terrible secret, which is it's not small. It's a small town that really isn't. It's a lot bigger than it admits. And there's lot's going on in Billville and the "Race Around America" is coming towards it. The race starts in NY, goes through VA, back to Billville for the 4th of July. We wrote one piece already which is an ad which takes off on these international phone ads. It's about young Phat who's dropped down the well that inflated the bombs that paid for the village to bring it about to make a call. It's one of those things like, "No matter where you are, you are completely in the global economy."

We wrote an intro to Billville that's just bad science, bad science, bad, bad science. Really bad, bad. So wrong. And there's 4 characters. There's the mayor, Mayor Penisnose. He's a Bob Dole 3rd person kind of guy. And then there's Dr. Infermo, Dante Infermo. "Who poisoned the wells?" "You told me to!" And then there's the coach who's feeding steroids to the kids in the water and day training for the basketball game. "Move that bus, bust that move, move that bus." Ringggggg. He's day training and he's coaching basketball. And their necks are so big, they can't get into their uniforms. That's the second guy. That's played by Ossman. Infermo is Austin, "You're doomed, you're doomed." Proctor plays Sprawl, Bob Sprawl the developer, Sprawlco. And this is just the beginning. It's all taking place, I want it to take place partially on TV. I don't mean channel changing but not make a big deal out of it. Not as much comment, as just there. It's surreal, it's 500 channels.

We've worked on it but we're going to go heavy in May and produce it in June. We're going to produce 3 mixes. A stereo mix for CD, 5.1 mix for DVD audio and a fold down for DVD video. DVD codex, for 10 minutes of video. We're shooting that right now.

FZ: Any comments about the Grammy Show?

PB: Us, Brandy, The Goo Goo Dolls, Bare Naked Ladies, Will Smith and Jimmy Smits, sitting right there. I thought I'd died and gone to fucking heaven. Where am I?

FZ: We enjoyed those limo shots.

PB: Limos. A thousand of us. A thousand people this close, all waiting for limos. Hundreds of limos. People going, "152 in lane 5." I waited for 40 minutes next to Alanis Morrissette. I looked at her and said, "What a culture, waiting for limos." She's marvelous, I love her dearly, she's a genius but no sense of humor. No sense of humor. She's like the Dark Lady, no sense of fucking humor. I'm not going to change my life for her. Miss Shelob is feeling poorly. I've got to go. See you in Seattle Fred.

FZ: David how did you get together with Peter to do the book.

David Samson: We met in a gay bar in Pasadena. He strolled up beside me and he said, "Hi, did you use the rear entrance?" And I said to him, "Young Man, you're very attractive but unfortunately my testosterone does not respond to you. Let's collaborate instead of cohabitate." And from there it was magical. We're both 2 very sensitive men, much too sensitive for our own good, so we took a special course in insensitivity training. We became highly insensitive, hard cruel, domineering and discovered that that wasn't working either. So what happened was we became very ego centric. So we went down and had emergency liposuction on our egos.

FZ: I heard they were giving them out here, that's why I showed up.

DS: You don't qualify yet. You have enough depth to accommodate your weight, you see. If you had no depth, then we would have operated. I would like to introduce somebody but they're not worthy of introduction so I'll continue talking.

FZ: Well, how do you survive the Millennium?

DS: Well I would say the first thing to survive the Millennium is to realize that it's off by 10 years. The real Millennium occurred in 1990, with the Bush election. However, my suggestion for the Millennium is that we all covert to the Hebraic calendar. This way it will be the year 5,673, the year of the chutzpah. And we won't have the Millennium to worry about for another 276 years or there-abouts.

FZ: The Mayan calendar ran out so...

DS: The Mayan calendar did run out. As a matter of fact, those Mayan day runners were a bitch, those clay tablets that weighed about 700 lbs were very very difficult to navigate.

FZ: No wonder they're no longer around. I think we're getting kicked out.

DS: Oh no, the lights coming on merely mean that they want us to see each other better, which is the same as getting kicked out, I suppose.